Minutes 08oct27

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Contents 1 Intros and Trip Reports 2 Announcements 2.1 Haloween Party 2.2 X-Mas Party 2.3 sandia cave project 2.4 Treasurer's Report 2.5 Ski Swap 3 Nominations 3.1 Chair 3.2 VP 3.3 Treasurer 3.4 Secretary 4 Programs 4.1 50th 4.2 Knutt in Chili 5 Ft. Stanton Fatality 6 Old Business

Intros and Trip Reports

1. Judson Finley -- New. a few years in ABQ. Archeo/Geologist. Works in Bighorns of WY. Wants more cave experience
2. Dan Montoya -- ElMaP with Victor et. al. Classic cave last weekend.
3. Deb Rivera -- no caving. finger injury. skipping next guadalupe team trip
4. carol lucero -- went to ft. stanton. will report later
5. sam bono -- also at ft. stanton with carol, jen, linda. Also did el-map last sat.
6. Linda Starr -- ft. stanton
7. jenifer boyette -- ft stanton
8. sherie pennebaker -- no caving
9. rose (galbraith) saunders -- went to GypKaP. only 3 in attendance. carl & blake. found m7 and corn-sink. did some rancher relations. also did ElMaP
10. harry marinakas -- visiting from W. Va. Just did 2 weeks in Korea. LAva tubes. Going ridgewalking in ElMalpais tomorrow. invited others.
11. Jackey McDanel -- with harry
12. duke McMullan -- no caving, but got a schedule change, so might be able to cave more now
13. aaron birenboim -- no caving
14. joe gavigan -- no lately.
15. robert grubbs -- bighorn cave. also horsethief. hung out with some WY cavers. looked, but did not find caves in HI
16. Ron mahler -- no
17. nate -- was at ft. stanton
18. fred mitchell -- ridgewalk
19. knutt peterson -- no caving in last month
20. george -- no caving. found munchies
21. roger bert -- no caving
22. james tabinsky -- saw snowy river
23. ray keeler -- buchners, in indianna. sat accepted some of the graphitti equipment
24. kevin lormes -- no caving
25. sharon chong -- went to HI. no caving
26. victor polyak -- ElMap. crew of 9. Inventory Classic. 2 teams
27. paula provencio -- new grotto member from E AZ showed up for ElMap

Announcements

NCRC application is out for next June in Bedford, Indianna

Winter Tech, Sat. Dec. 6. Permian Basin sponsors. Sigley Center, Midland.

Haloween Party

Halloween Party, Sat. Night. Jen Boyette's house.

• Wear costume
• Bring gross (named or looking, not tasting) food
• Will have some drinks, bring more if you are into adult beverages

We have grotto items for sale.

X-Mas Party

Dan and Deb will volunteer their house. Either Conflicting with Winter Tech, or following weekend. Sat or fri preferred.

Try Sat., Dec 13 for party.

• gift exchange

george brought some articles on bats to share

sandia cave project

ray will be talking to forest service. equipment is on its way.

Treasurer's Report

We have about $1600

Ski Swap

this weekend at fair. $20 tickets to friday night preview party. Will get you fist bids on items at the swap.

Nominations

Chair

• Sam -- nominates kevin for chair. Second Deb.
• Aaron -- nominates Robert for Chair. Duke seconds.

VP

• Kevin nominates scott christianson in absencia.
• Knutt. accepted. second.
• Robert Grubbs. accepted. second.

Treasurer

• Deb rivera (seconded)
• Blake , in absencia. seconded.

Secretary

• Kevin nominates aaron for secreatary. accepted. second duke.

Programs

50th

slide show/animation screened

Knutt in Chili

went to chili and easter island last summer to survey caves for a nasa project

ron helped put together an animated program

jul 14, 2008. left. went to a house in san pedro for a month. caving in cordilla de la sal. mostly caves in halite (salt). they get avg. 3-5mm rain / year. They often go 5-6 years without rain. When it does rain, it is often around 1 inch.

then went to santiago on way to easter island. spent about a week on easter island.

Ft. Stanton Fatality

Jennifer, Carol, Sam, and Linda were going to Ft. Stanton. Bilbo was there on a trip, and reported that he had an incident.

Carol and jenifer went with Bilbo back to victim, tom, who appears to have had a heart attack. Other people were giving CPR. Jennifer took over as IC. Gave CPR for over an hour. Was 70 min to get out and back to caver with help. Within 3 hours, Tom was removed from the cave.

Basic wisdom. Take duct tape, a pad, heat blanket, heat/light source, food water. If you can't fix it with duct tape, just keep them warm and get help. Although we are told to continue CPR until relieved, or you can't anymore, usually victims are brain dead in 6-8 minutes. odds are very low of recovery after a few minutes in remote, rough, non-hospital situations. Kids or healthy people might last an hour. But chances are still very slim if you are not expecting help within an hour.

Old Business

Sam has looked into nominating John Corchran for merit. We are also looking into sponsoring an/some fellow app(s).